Discussion on Crafting Buffs.

[E'hosmer]

I have a bad habit of somehow saying the perfect thing to piss everyone off, so I'll keep this simple.

We've been accommodating raider's buff selections for years. We promote as an FC that does everything in the game, focusing in no one area. I don't think giving the crafters one day of what they want is unreasonable.

As Floren said above Magnus - the raiders all get together around a certain time and "ask" for the buff at that point. Floren and Okaria have laid out a few times in this thread that if the crafters would just come to some sort of a meeting time, then I think the officers would be on-board with the buff idea. At this point though, the response to the forum and "static" idea has been along the lines of "I'm not going to start using the forum because it hasn't been used in the past" along with "well we'll just make a ls for it then"....

[Nasca]

Nasca, you seem to be thinking that I am a complete idiot. I too am a crafter within the FC, one that many of you guys seem to not know about. And apparently you didnt read my post, so thank you for cutting to the end and doing that. I DO know that you cant HQ a housing item. I was simply going off of your comment. Yes, I read it in entirety, so I am going to say then in response that your ending comment then is very confusing to the point that I was unable to see exactly what it is.

And still, I stand by that statement. not everyone is going to want the Moogle Crafting gear. So your statement is still false. And if you guys want to tell me that that statement is wrong, go ahead and make my day. Because I too am seeing this being more of a nit-picking argument against the FC officers and the things we have done in the past, without you guys seeing the situation from all sides.

I don't believe anyone to be an idiot, certainly I also read your entire statement, as we are having an open discussion on the mumble servers and many of us are sharing our opinions of each and every post in this thread and we are all very civil. There are few things that do seem off from your posts, since no one has mentioned housing items and of course no one has mentioned crafting gear. What I mentioned was Moogle Beast tribe progression, which will prove challenging with handicaps that they might use on us. Just to clarify.

Anyway, I have to leave for work, so I will keep an eye on this later.

[Floren]

It would be helpful to see less discussion on mumble and more of it here, as not everyone can be on it all the time, and would keep this discussion as open as possible

[Bigcedric]

To make things simpler for everyone in this discussion...

There's an obvious consensus that has been reached to setup a day/time for the crafting buffs to be utilized by those that want them.

All that's needed now is to figure out the day/time for it.

The extraneous comments and arguments aren't doing anything but derailing the actual objective of this thread.

Let's keep this simple and just use the thread to now get the specifics of when to schedule this. Anything else doesn't belong here.

[Sesena]

We can discuss the benefits of having the control buff until we black and blue, what needs to be done at this point is see when the best time for most crafts to use the buff as a trial period and see how it goes.

[Okaria]

Let's keep things on track here, gang. I realize buffs are always a passionate discussion (who would ever have thought?) but we're here for a very specific reason that we should focus on. <3

So, everything aside, I feel like we're largely - in principal - in agreement here that a couple hours of crafting buffs isn't going to hurt anything. I'm not a crafter so I can't really argue one way or the other on the usefulness of these buffs. You guys certainly seem to done the math, and I trust that. If it won't interfere with existing buffs substantially and could make our crafters happier with our buff situation, I personally don't see any harm in this. What is our purpose as a community if not to look after one another and ensure we're doing what we can to satisfy each other's needs? We do so for raiders, we do so for those leveling jobs, and I see no harm in doing so for our crafters.

Puzzle, Nasca, et al - I do apologize if this was posted already and has gotten lost in the mix to me (this thread has become quite tedious) - would you like to sync up with your fellow crafters and come up with a schedule proposal for us to consider that would be ideal for you all? I think that should be our next step, and would be helpful in keeping the discussion on track. We can move forward from there.

Edit: Sorry, just noticed Cedric post essentially the same thing just before me >_>

[Sesena]

Hello Okaria I will post something in the AKS Crafting LS tonight when more people log on and hopefully me and Nasca can come up with something to provide to you.

[Okaria]

Hello Okaria I will post something in the AKS Crafting LS tonight when more people log on and hopefully me and Nasca can come up with something to provide to you.

Thanks! I appreciate it

[Zygous]

Let me start you off with some ideas for making a good schedule.

Here is the FCs flight roster it shows the days and times when every raid group runs. http://www.aureusknights.com/showthr...ed-April-20th*
We'd like to avoid conflict between the raiding buffs and crafting buffs. All of them start in the evening after 7pm Eastern, so late afternoon or during the dinner hours would not cause conflict.

I also have a preliminary proposal:

Damage Control and I were randomly brainstorming in mumble one night and he came up with this idea. We could turn off Heat of Battle and Earth and Water a little early on Saturday night, turn on In Control and Helping Hand a bit early on Saturday night. Then, after a few hours we take off In control and put Heat of Battle back up.

One reason for Saturday is that taking off E&W a little early and putting up HH a little early helps equalize there uptime, where as now HH always gets a little bit shorted by our Sunday evening groups heading into raid.

[Sesena]

Okaria,

I have spoken to a few crafters in the FC and they came up with the idea of having the buff on Wednesday, this is the day before Red scrip turn ins are due, so Wednesday is usually a big crafting day for most crafters. Now looking at the raiding schedule I see only one raid group that runs on Wednesday that starts at 9:00 pm est so that would have to be the cut off time if we decided to have the buff up on this day.

Nasca also thought that maybe we could have it up for a few hours on another day in addition to the Wednesday, we were thinking on a Friday or Saturday because no raid groups run on those days that i could see.